Review: Chromag Darco - A Very Big Little Bike

Aug 29, 2023
by Dario DiGiulio  
Chromag's hardtail-only lineup was one of the more consistent trends in the bike industry for a long while. As seemingly every other brand got curious and dipped into the full-suspension market, the team at Chromag stayed stalwart in their ankle-breaking ways. Rumors swirled first in 2012 about a Chromag with a shock, but that lay dormant for a long while before it seemed that they were testing the waters yet again. Turns out that second go was the ticket, and they pursued the project with full force, developing not one but three full-suspension bikes: the Minor Threat kids' bike, the long-travel Lowdown, and the Darco.

Here we have the Darco, the steel trail bike, sporting 120mm of travel and some very Chromag geometry. It's an idiosyncratic rig, definitely not for everyone, but for the right rider it might just be the ticket.

Chromag Darco Details

• 29" front and rear
• 120mm frame travel, 150mm fork
• 64° head angle
• 450-530mm reach
• 435mm chainstays
• 78° seat tube angle
• 5 sizes available, Large tested
• Weight: 37.3 lb / 16.9 kg
• Frameset: $3,450 USD
• Complete: $5,857 USD
chromagbikes.com

Chromag only has one stock build for the Darco, retailing for $5,857 USD. It comes kitted with a RockShox Lyrik Select+ fork and SuperDeluxe Ultimate shock, SRAM G2 RSC brakes, a 12-speed SRAM GX Eagle drivetrain, and Chromag Phase30 aluminum wheels. The build I was sent differed slightly from the stock spec, as the G2 brakes had been swapped out for a set of SRAM Code RSCs, but otherwise the build remained the same.




bigquotesOverall, the Darco is a funky ride, full of character and boldly unique in a world where lots of bikes are beginning to feel the same. The consequence of uniqueness is that this Chromag won't be for everyone, but if you find yourself looking for a burly short travel bike that can punch above its travel numbers, and you like the aggressive approach to geometry, then you might be quite happy here.Dario DiGiulio




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Frame Details

Chromag stuck to their tried and true construction method for the Darco, meaning the front and rear triangles are almost entirely made out of nicely-welded 4130 chromoly steel tubing. The only exception is at the chainstay, where they went with 7005 aluminum to enhance the stiffness and make it easier to get the bearing seats dialed. All that metal has a bit of a weight penalty, and the Darco is far from a light bike - despite a decently light build kit, the overall weight on my size large came out to 37.3 pounds (16.9 kg).

The cables are routed externally for almost the entire length of the bike, save for a very frustrating section where they run through the chainstays. Otherwise, the frame is simply arranged and should prove easy to work on, with flat faces surrounding bearings and no fiddly bolts that are hard to access.

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Tire fitment is fairly tight out back, with scant clearance for a 2.4" DHR, meaning folks who like fatter rubber will probably have to look elsewhere. This tight clearance is partially driven by the bottom-out clearance on the bike, which is already close with a 2.4 tire - anything beefier would likely contact the seattube on big impacts.

In addition to the typical bottle mount, there's a second location underneath the skinny top tube, allowing for a little accessory purse or pump should you be so inclined. The frame has mastic tape downtube protection, as well as a shuttle guard, which should help keep the Darco rust-free a little while longer. There's a nicely molded rubber chainstay protector, which does a good job of keeping chainslap noise to a minimum.

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Geometry & Sizing

Chromag has long been known for pushing the envelope with their hardtail designs, relying on very aggressive geometry to try to match the capabilities of similarly-intended suspended bikes. They applied the same methods to the Darco, resulting in a short-travel bike with some very serious numbers, particularly when it comes to fit.

Worth noting is the recommended sizing for the Darco. I'm 6'3", which puts me at the tallest recommended height for their size Large, and the team at Chromag was certain that it was the size I should be riding. I had some apprehension about that, primarily focused around the reach number; the reach on a large Darco is 514mm, which is beyond many brands' XL numbers. That reach is paired with a 631mm stack height, driven by a distinctly stubby 115mm headtube. The size small's reach is 450mm, and the XL goes all the way up to 530mm.

The angles are 64° for the headtube and 78° for the seattube, in keeping with many longer-travel enduro bikes on the market. Chainstays are a medium-short 435mm across the board, and although they don't state it, the BB drop is around 32mm.

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Suspension Design

The Darco's adorable little shock is actuated by a rocker-driven Horst linkage, which is designed to perform in a variety of manners. Chromag went with a kinematic that suits the aggressive nature of the bike, erring on a more active and traction-oriented setup than you'd expect of a 120mm bike. The numbers are all below, but feel-wise it's a far cry from the sporty XCish ride that you might expect.

The starting leverage ratio of 3.25:1 means the bike is eager to break into travel, but the high overall progression (29%) and fairly low sag number (20-30%) are meant to keep you from hitting the bottom of the pool every time you jump in.

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Specifications
Release Date 2023
Price $5857
Travel 120mm
Rear Shock RockShox SuperDeluxe Ultimate, 165x45, HM Tune, 2T
Fork RockShox Lyrik Select+ 150mm
Headset Cane Creek 40
Cassette SRAM GX Eagle
Crankarms SRAM GX Eagle
Chainguide None
Bottom Bracket SRAM DUB
Pedals None
Rear Derailleur SRAM GX Eagle
Chain SRAM GX Eagle
Front Derailleur None
Shifter Pods SRAM GX Eagle
Handlebar Chromag OSX
Stem Chromag HiFi 40mm
Grips Chromag Format
Brakes SRAM G2 RSC
Wheelset Chromag Phase30 / R4
Hubs Chromag
Rim Chromag
Tires Maxxis DHF / DHRII, EXO+, MaxxTerra
Seat Chromag Trailmaster DT
Seatpost RockShox Reverb, 125-200mm



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Test Bike Setup

As I mentioned above, the test bike I ended up with had one difference from the stock build, namely in the brake department. Code RSCs are a better fit for this bike than the G2s that would otherwise come stock, but generally I didn't feel the need to change things from the original kit. As you'll notice in some of the photos, I ran an Assegai towards the end of the test, just to change things up and see if the larger diameter and easier ride characteristic better suited the bike.

I experimented with a wide range of sag numbers on the Darco, but generally kept the SuperDeluxe shock pumped up to 220psi, giving me about 26% sag. At times I ran burlier tires, but the stock rubber was generally appropriate for the bike's preferred terrain.


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Dario DiGiulio
Location: Bellingham, WA, USA
Height: 6'3" / 191cm
Inseam: 34" / 86cm
Weight: 180 lbs / 81.6 kg
Industry affiliations / sponsors: None
Instagram: @danger_dario


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Climbing

Your seated position is usually the first impression you get on a bike, and the Darco quickly gets to the point letting you know just how long and low a bike it is. The cockpit feels quite stretched out, but thankfully the seat angle is steep enough to take up some of the slack and keep you in a fairly comfortable position. For how long the reach is, the stack height is fairly low, so folks like myself who like a fairly upright body position will have to raise the cockpit up as high as you can to make up some distance. Once done, the bike is comfortable for a long day of pedaling, especially if you're punching up steep grinding pitches.

On technical and less steep terrain, the balance of the Darco can feel a bit off, until you get used to the fact that you're essentially pivoting around the rear wheel to make turns and pop up ledgy bits of trail. With fairly short chainstays and a very long reach, bikes like this can sometimes feel like you're pushing a shopping cart, but once you're used to the nature of that front wheel distance things feel fairly normal.

The suspension on the Darco definitely biases towards grip over efficiency, but things ramp up quick enough as to keep you from wallowing too much on the climbs. I was impressed by the amount of rear wheel traction the bike has, even under hard efforts out of the saddle. You put down power and the tire transfers it to the dirt, without too many burnout moments. For longer paved climbs, the shock's lockout is quite firm, bringing the Darco back to Chromag's hardtail roots.

I know I'm always talking about how weight doesn't really matter, but I think this bike changed my mind a little. I think the common rule of thumb is that the shorter the travel, the lighter a bike should be, but the Darco weighs more than my SB160, and more than an all-metal Reeb Steezl I'm testing that feels similarly capable. 37 pounds is a lot for a short travel trail bike, and although you could build the bike up with lighter components, you wouldn't want to hamper the descending too much. A carbon wheelset would help things spin up a bit quicker, but that's not a night and day difference.

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Descending

The reach-stack balance I mentioned before is equally important here, and the cockpit changes continue to set things in the right direction. Raising your bars doesn't fix everything though, so expect a riding position that is hard over the front, except perhaps on the smallest couple of sizes. That front-heavy weight bias has upsides and downsides, the former of which manifests in solid grip on that front wheel, so long as you're committed.

The downsides are a little more plentiful, as it can be hard to find the right balance point on the Darco. I think the relatively short chainstays (per the long reach) have a lot to do with this, as it can be hard to feel like your weight is in the right place between the front and rear wheel at times, making for a slightly sketchy feeling ride. At times I found myself getting too deep over the front in corners, or too far off the back in repeated deep compressions. The disparity between front and rear travel probably plays a role too, so riding the Darco more like a hardtail can alleviate some of that confusion. That said, a hardtail is eminently predictable in the fact that the rear wheel never moves, where the Darco's back end is obviously a bit more mobile than that.

Luckily the kinematic on the Darco is fairly predictable, even though it moves through travel fairly easily. The high leverage allows the bike to break into travel very easily, providing great grip and a comfortable feel over small chattery terrain. Deeper through the cycle there's enough support for pumping and preloading jumps, without any weird movement or sudden spikes in the platform it provides. The Darco takes the edge off the biggest hits, though I found myself running into the end of travel with some frequency. The shock definitely handles things better with 2 or 3 (the maximum) volume spacers installed, so remember to experiment with that element if you're keen on the Darco life. It's okay to give that bottom-out bumper a workout, but the clunk at full bottom can be a bit disconcerting when you're pushing the bike hard.

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The characteristics of the Darco may not be my daily bread and butter, but they do handle certain terrain very well. In Bellingham, I found the most fun when riding the Darco on high speed flow trails, which are plentiful in our area. In those settings, the long reach and slack head angle add a ton of stability, and the short rear end matters a bit less as you're not fighting for traction or balance in the corners, instead just leaning the bike and looking ahead. The predictable nature of the back end feels great on jumps, and the quiet nature of the frame keeps rattle to a minimum.

I spend a lot of time in Squamish aboard the Darco as well, and despite its shortcomings it's definitely a bike you can push. Steep lines and rock rolls are aided by the solid rear-wheel grip, and although the front and rear don't feel terribly balanced together, you're not thinking about that when all you're doing is aiming for a catch pocket at the bottom of a slab.

Overall the ride is certainly unique, and I can appreciate that in a world where many bikes can feel the same. If I were to buy a Darco for myself, I'd certainly go with the next size down, as the M/L is far more in keeping with my typical fit preferences. The team at Chromag, as well as their fit chart, were quite certain the Large was the size for me, but I think the über-long reach isn't the ticket for the type of riding I like to do.

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How does it compare?

This is a tricky line to draw, as the Darco is quite unusual in the market. There are plenty of 120mm bikes out there, but very few have the traits - good and bad - that the Chromag brings to the table. Certain aspects of the Rocky Mountain Element are similar, like the rear end grip and progressive geometry, but the Darco takes the latter to the extreme. The reach and seat tube angle of the Element are much more traditional, and better suited to XC-ish riding.

Banshee has a couple bikes in their lineup that match the burly short travel frame setup, but again the geometry is more balanced and neutral. Transition's Spur will probably get mentioned as another capable short travel bike, but that looks like a short track XC bike compared to the Darco's numbers and intentions.

In many ways, the most apt comparisons come in Chromag's own lineup, as their other bikes are some of the only ones in keeping with the radical approach embodied by the Darco. A while back, we spotted a prototype Chromag full-suspension, albeit with a different shock layout and build kit to both the Darco and their longer-travel Lowdown. My understanding now is that proto sat somewhere between the two travel-wise, and was passed over in favor of the suspension design they're now using on the current lineup. That said, I'd be curious how the Darco would do if they upped the travel just a bit, as a first step in giving the bike a bit better balance overall.

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Which Model is the Best Value?

Compared to the last section, this is quite easy, as there's only one option for you to choose from. The G2 spec model is overall very well sorted, and I think it does provide good value for what you get. The frame is very high quality, and there's not a part I wouldn't run, save for the namesake brakes themselves. G2's simply lack the power you can get out of something like a Code, so I'd consider that an early upgrade item for most riders.

The frame-and-shock option is an interesting value proposition, as it gives you the latitude to build things up however you please. Unless you're swapping over a whole bike's worth of carryover kit, you're unlikely to match the price of the factory build, but for someone who wants to pick and choose every last part of their bike it might be the move.

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Technical Report

I've had the Darco for some time now, and the bike has remained mechanically issue-free for the duration of the test. The trunnion mount shock bolts have crept out a few times, but with some Loctite and a tighten up that seems to have been alleviated. There are typical creaks and groans that accompany lots of dusty summer riding, but nothing extreme or out of the ordinary.

My one real gripe with ownership on the bike is the cable routing, mostly because they got so damn close to getting it right. Brake and derailleur cables are routed externally down the whole bike, until you get to the chainstays, where they inexplicably punch into the frame for a few inches. Sure it looks clean, but the downside is having to cut your brake hose, fish cables through the cavity, and make sure they stay quiet in there.

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Pros

+ Great rear-wheel grip for short travel bike
+ Fun and stable in flowy terrain
+ Quiet frame and components


Cons

- Heavy frame and build weight
- Unbalanced ride in technical terrain
- Extreme geometry not for everyone



Pinkbike's Take

bigquotesOverall, the Darco is a funky ride, full of character and boldly unique in a world where lots of bikes are beginning to feel the same. The consequence of uniqueness is that this Chromag won't be for everyone, but if you find yourself looking for a burly short travel bike that can punch above its travel numbers, and you like the aggressive approach to geometry, then you might be quite happy here. It wasn't for me, but it's a very good first go at full suspension and I applaud Chromag in making the bike that they want to ride. Dario DiGiulio






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213 Comments
  • 217 4
 when you want a short travel bike that climbs worse than your enduro bike
  • 20 0
 sign me up
  • 15 11
 I feel like this comment describes a significant number of "downcountry" bikes. If the bike's north of 30 pounds, it should still climb well, have the chops for an occasional terrain park day.
  • 10 0
 this is the marketing speak we need.
  • 21 0
 Nothing like 40lbs, 120mm of rear travel, but prices like a pretty decent enduro bike that will out-climb it and weigh less.
  • 27 3
 When you want a 120mm bike that weighs more than your Enduro bike.
  • 1 0
 @wyorider: lots of downcountry bikes ar
  • 3 0
 and that cost 6k for a steel !
  • 1 0
 @wyorider: Just rode a beefed up allied bc40 in this very manner.. 130 fork 26.5lbs in an XL.. Not cheap but what a bike that can configured on the xc side or the aggressive side of DC/trail ..I want one.
  • 4 6
 My Darco weighs 43lbs but hey, my enduro weighs 47lbs so I guess that's a win?
  • 7 0
 And for $3500 frame. Lol how is that not one of the cons?
  • 2 0
 @jrocksdh: how indeed!
  • 2 0
 @wyorider: I think alloy short travel bikes kinda have this issue, they are still good bikes but there isn’t much downside in terms of weight to going to an efficient longer travel bike like the Ripmo af
  • 2 0
 @samskuatch: how in the heck is your enduro bike 47 lbs?!

My xl raaw madonna with continental dh tires and a coil shock is still roughly 38lbs, where are you getting the extra 9 lbs?!
  • 3 0
 @Solorider13: Maybe it's a Huffy Enduro
  • 1 0
 @Solorider13: it's a custom steel single pivot, roughly dimensions of a Spire. DH casing tires and an o chain. Adds up real quick, but goes down a hill real well.
  • 1 0
 @samskuatch: I think it should be called OCrank or Oring even better not OChain
  • 2 1
 My carbon transition spire costs less, weighs less, descends way better, and probably climbs just as well as this cromag...
  • 123 2
 The cover photo/side profile makes me want it... sadly every subsequent word in the article reduces that want.
  • 48 6
 If 120mm is considered big nowadays, id be the next Mandingo
  • 13 0
 @gearbo-x: #100mmisaverage
  • 75 3
 I have this bike in the same size (L). I'm a hair under 6 feet tall with a longer torso - I like to be able to shift my weight around on the bike. As I've gotten older it seems I have more of this weight to shift around. I'm no bike journalist, but I have been riding and building them for 35 years or so. It's wonderful how many different perspectives there can be on the same thing - for instance, in my opinion this is the best mountain bike I've ever owned, and was impressed with the way it felt - like I could ride it on just about any trail on the mountain and have a nice time. It's also a beautiful bike and that's nice.
  • 52 1
 Sounds a bit like my old Process 111. Heavy, sluggish, unbalanced and not enough travel for its weight - but wicked fun on just the right trails.
  • 17 0
 As a former 111 owner this is a perfect comparison. Stupid short chainstays with reach that was way too long but very fun in the right situations. Heavy as f*ck and quick to lose front end traction if you move back over the seat. These days i'm much happier on a smaller bike with a balanced front and rear. I had a love/hate relationship with the 111.
  • 3 0
 @WestwardHo: What bike are you on now? I've been through a selection of short-travel shred sleds and currently riding an Orange Stage Evo. Same reach as the P111 but 442mm rear.
  • 28 0
 It's been a long time since I've ridden a 111, but in my memory that comparison holds up.
  • 1 0
 How does is compare?... to my good old 2018 Smuggler with a 150mm Lyrik but worse in term of weight and geometry. Let's be honest: 120mm rear travel bikes are not meant for gnarly terrains. As a hardtailer, I choose my bike thinking that less is and more is less, but the tolerance it provides is narrow compared to a bit burlier trail bike.
My next bike is gonna be a .... I don't know yet.
  • 5 1
 I currently own and still ride a 111. Size large is 460 reach and the chainstay is 430. 67 head angle, short wheelbase and it weighs prob 30 lbs. I converted mine to mullet and can toss it around like nothing else. My trail and Enduro bikes are like 35-40lbs so it doesn't feel very heavy or sluggish to me.
  • 6 1
 @chakaping: I went from a large 111 with a 480ish reach to a medium stumpy evo with a 450ish. Chainstays on the stumpy are 445 in the long setting. I'm 5'11" and always preferred smaller bikes but i bought into the Pinkbike driven size-up hype that happened several years back.
  • 6 1
 I still have my Process 111 and ride it all the time. It's almost 36 pounds even with EXO tires but it's ridiculous how much fun that bike is. You can boost it off almost any bump in the trail. Honestly I'd buy this bike just because it says Chromag on it.
  • 5 0
 I have to join in on the Process 111 love. Is "capable" the best word to describe the ride? No. But fun? Yes, yes x 10. Hoonin', goofin', jibbin', poppin' F-U-N. So many smiles on that bike!
  • 2 1
 Heavy? My process 153 was 33lb with a pretty burly build. No wagon wheels though, so..
  • 4 0
 @mikealive: I think it was the last bike I could do a scandi flick on. I love modern geometry generally and favour 450mm chainstays, but shorter ones did have their privileges Big Grin
  • 3 1
 @emptybe-er: Not the heaviest, but pretty chonky IMO. The real problem was that it pedaled like dogshit though. I replaced it with a 155mm travel Enduro 29, which shot up the hills by comparison.
Still one of the most fun and memorable bikes I've owned though.
  • 3 1
 funny. I was also curious how the Chromag compared to my Process 111. Thankful for everyone's feedback. Been running a 150mm fork and a Works angleset on a medium frame. Im really stoked my bike from 2016 keeps up with everything coming out these days...
  • 2 0
 @chakaping: Yeah I haven’t ever tried to maximize my uphill fun, the term is contradictory imo
  • 1 0
 @chakaping: Any “chonkiness” was from wagonwheels
  • 46 6
 37 pounds? No problem. Just take a big, 5-pound dump before you ride!
  • 45 1
 That’s the kinda shit solution I’m looking for.
  • 4 38
flag nateb FL (Aug 29, 2023 at 9:57) (Below Threshold)
 Then borrow one of mommies panty liners (with wings) to sit on until the bleeding stops.
  • 9 0
 That cliche is so over used it holds no weight anymore
  • 14 0
 @taprider: It never held any weight. It’s absurd. Dropping a 5-pound deuce brings the absurdity to the next level.
  • 6 1
 5 pound dump?! How many stuffed crust pizzas are you eating a day?
  • 6 1
 @TheR: Do you even deuce bro?
  • 9 1
 @VtVolk: No, he cincos.
  • 34 0
 So it's kinda crappy at pedaling up because of the geo and lazy suspension design, it's not good at going down because of the weird forward bias geo and the lack of rear travel which means you gotta ride it like a hardtail, you can't put 2.6 tires on it, and it weighs over 40 pounds with pedals and a water bottle?

You could build up a REALLY sick hardtail for $5800 or a mid-budget XC and a mid-budget Trail hardtail for that much - like SLX drivetrain level on both.

This is a weird bike that I kinda wanna ride to see what it's about
  • 21 0
 Funny there is no mention of the Norco Optic here. Geo isn't quite as extreme, but it's a 125mm travel ripper with a piggyback shock (as all aggressive trail/whatever bikes should have IMO) that's designed to do what this Darco seems to be intended for. However I think the Optic is a fair bit lighter, a vastly less expensive.
  • 17 0
 @sngltrkmnd: I have a 23’ Optic. Just a tad more travel and the rear shock is tuned perfectly. Mine weighs 30lbs. It climbs amazing, and I have never been so confident on downs before.
And it cost 3k
  • 6 0
 @sngltrkmnd: we don't really have Norcos out by me but after seeing what people can do on an Optic, I'm starting to think a regular Stumpjumper would have suited me better than the Evo I got last year
  • 1 0
 I thought that it was supposed to ride like a hardtail, with the suspension just taking out some of the pain and fatigue. But the excessive weight and lack of tire clearance goes against this idea.
  • 4 0
 @sngltrkmnd: I was about to say just snag an Optic, with upgrades and Cane Creek coil mine is just over 30lbs. Climbs like feather, charges downhill, and jumps amazingly. Just paired it with a Cascade link, think I found my favorite bike to use for most trails, jump lines, and tech sections. IT really surprised me how well it can handle the rowdier trails.
  • 2 0
 @907nattylight: coil, hmmmm. How is that time the top of the travel? I love how my RS just doesn’t sink much in the beginning hence the awesome climbing. Sounds like the Optic handles coil well?
  • 1 0
 @slayersxc17: it’s not bad , the cane creek also has a climb switch which really stiffens up the initial dampening. Almost got a push coil for it, but I’m not picky on the climbing , all my previous bikes have been 40lbs so this feel light as a feather. Also love how nimble it feels, and cmon coil over air any day , just the traction and ability to soak up big hits if you go off line really stands out, makes this bike way more capable.
  • 1 0
 @907nattylight: I have a DB coil from an old short travel bike laying in my garage. It’s barley a different stroke at 200x50. CC is local to me, might see if there is anyway they can shorten it up for me. I doubt it, I don’t really understand that stuff well.
  • 2 0
 @907nattylight: I've been interested in a Cascade link for my Optic, has it made much of a difference to the bike? Worth the money? cheers
  • 3 0
 @iheartbikes1: It really does make a difference with the more progressive leverage ratio and additional 5mm of travel, I think it shines the most with short travel bikes. Do you charge, let the brakes off, like to push through chunk and roots? Still need some more rides in to really get a feel, even sitting on the seat and bouncing up and down feels different. Got a black link second had for cheap ($200), they are pretty pricey, wanted the silver but didn't want to spend 350+.. I have a link on my alum patrol and absolutely loved how it added more travel and its super smooth when taking impacts.
  • 1 0
 @slayersxc17: cane creek has their first gen coils on sale right now for 300? i'd give them a call and ask!
  • 1 0
 @907nattylight: I have the first gen, I honestly wonder if they would let me trade it in? I only have about ten rides on it, bought the Norco shortly after the coil.
If I sold it, I might just want to try the cascade link.
For those who have the link, how is the climbing? I love the way the Optic climbs. Got long gravel hauls and chunky single track to deal with in my neck of the wood.
  • 30 3
 Bro reach strikes again, ruining a bike to try to look gnarly to all your product manager buds.
  • 23 0
 120mm travel bike that weighs more than my DH and my 160mm bike? Ouch
  • 19 0
 I suspect this bike is intended for hardtail lovers who want a slightly more forgiving machine. It is already mentioned in the review that it works best when treated like a ht. Chromag ht's are also similarly "imbalanced" in terms of rear/front center, so it's only expected that they come up with this geo for their full suspension bikes. It looks like they know what they want, it just may not be what everyone wants.
  • 23 4
 Ok, As a Darco owner, Ima chime in with my two cents...
I'm 6'2" and I ended up on the XL size. The reviewer seems preoccupied with the published reach numbers. Geo charts only tell part of the story. Yes, the reach is long, but the general fit is really appropriate and comfortable for long pedally rides (I live in Colorado with long climbs and long downhills). I would have NEVER imagined riding a 530mm reach, but it honestly isn't that crazy in the context of the overall geo. Also, The reviewer didn't really mention that the steel ride quality really does shine. It's much different that your average carbon Wunder bike. Yea, it's a little heavier, but my stock Xl weighs in at 35 llbs. Im not sure where the extra weight in the review is coming from. Sure, its still heavy, but it still climbs pretty well due to the geo. My favorite terrain for this bike is in the desert i.e., Sedona, moab etc. Chunky tech stuff. Anyway, I enjoyed the article but I think it was reveiwed a bit harshly, Ok thats all.
  • 4 0
 64 HA and 435 CS aren't really abnormal, pretty standard actually. The SA matches what the Reach is doing, so the ETT is pretty standard also. You can also get the same bike in titanium, which would negate the weight a bit more. The ONLY thing I dont really like is the limited 2.4" tire in the back, but you can still run a 2.6 out front so it might actually be ok.

I think its sexy af and much cheaper than the REEB with funner geo.
  • 3 0
 And people forget... bikes designed with short head tubes are done so with long reaches on purpose. For the average rider, you'll add quite a bit of spacers which shrinks the reach by 5mm for ever 10mm of spacer stack you add. Then for those who want the reach but still want a higher stack, you add higher rise bars. This gets missed in reviews of bike with short head tubes and long reaches all the time. In this review, not sure why he didn't just add spacers until he was at his preferred stack, as is intended, and his bike fit would have been much better.
  • 4 0
 PB reviewers often seem to be heavily influenced by published numbers when making decisions about how something rides. Maybe it’s just their phrasing. It’s a bummer they can’t seem to separate how something feels versus the numbers they’re comfortable with. Especially when they’re hung up on reach but ignore how all the other numbers affect the One True Reach.

Reading this review I was just thinking how fun it would be to review a new bike without being fed geo numbers, then going back to it after getting the details.
  • 2 0
 @islandforlife: Funny how that works. And they’ll add spacers (sometimes) in these reviews, bring reach within the tolerances they express, and still say the reach is too long.
  • 1 0
 @islandforlife: Is there any other design reason for having long reach reach with short head tubes besides room for spacers?
  • 2 0
 @UnhappyPromoter: There may be other reasons. But knowing a building pretty well that does the same thing… they do it to allow the most customizable bike possible without reach adjust headsets etc.

But most people just see a long reach and don’t look/think any further.
  • 15 0
 Looks sweet but $3500 for a 4130 frame which isn't even built in CA? Not a whole lot of other options for FS steel frames but compared to the Starling Murmur, which costs considerably less and looks arguably better, the Darco doesn't seem to be all that compelling.
  • 3 0
 The Murmur is definitely better looking. Both seem to have some compromises or "personality" to their ride characteristics though.
  • 6 0
 Cotic FlareMax5
  • 12 0
 Just some other steel options:

Reeb
Cotic
Zoceli
Ferum
Moxie
Myth
Maddness
Pipedream
Contra
Willwood

I'm sure there are tons of other small builders out there as well
  • 4 1
 @WheelNut: the Murmur is a pretty easy bike to get on with and it's got 445mm CS so way more balanced.
  • 3 0
 @Erk101852: Curtis are always worth a look - that thumpercross DH bike is gorgeous
  • 3 0
 I just ordered a US built Ferrum LVN 160 frame with headset and coil shock for $1200 bucks. That said, it is on a huge sale but man. Seems like there are so many other steel options now and the pricing is just getting better.
  • 1 0
 @danfromme: forgot about them, they make some great stuff
  • 2 0
 @dennis72: I f*cking love my gen4. Rides so quiet and lively. Decent frame price.
  • 2 0
 @Erk101852: Add Coal, Production Privee, and Daambuilt
  • 1 0
 @fartymarty: Interesting. I'd really love to try one. I've never ridden a single pivot bike before. Aesthetically they are quite good.
  • 1 0
 @fartymarty: based on how relatively easy it is to get one in North America, they're a serious contender to scratch this itch I have
  • 15 0
 That was a refreshing review. Especially mentioning 'little' things like easy bearing extraction / installation which in reality can be a big clusterfork, and are never mentioned in reviews.
  • 14 0
 I’m a Chromag Darco M/L owner , I have been in this bike for over a year as my one and only weapon . I had a Kona process x and a 134 before , the numbers are similar to a large x frame .
This bike is special ! Something Magic is happening here the bike is very aggressive for a small travelish bike , yes it punches above its weight( which is not light , mine is 35 lbs with tools and a co2) but once you unlock it is when the magic happens . I ride this bike on everything in the sea to sky mainly Pemberton and ya it’s been in the park too . 4130 lovers and all steel fans this bike rips !!! And yes it rides slow tech stuff very well ya it’s not light and ya it’s slack and longer than a tall girls legs but like I said there is some Magic happening here !
If anyone is in Pemberton and wants to take one fii or r a ride hit me up ! Peace out
  • 20 7
 Been on a Darco for over a year. Doesn’t feel unbalanced to me. Also climbs fine, I haven’t had any problems.
It rides better than the similar Norco Optic, doesn’t feel as bottomless as a Forbidden Druid (both similar in rear travel).
Everything has held up great. Better than some hunk of plastic imo.
  • 13 4
 My experience as well. I have spent lots of time on both the Darco and the Druid. The Darco actually climbs better despite the weight. It has a unique, damp feel, and the geo is up for anything. The Druid definitely has the edge while descending, but if I'm going to pedal all day long I think I would rather ride the Darco.
  • 3 0
 @hitchhikerbikes: the quietness of steel is awesome. My FlareMax is the same way
  • 10 0
 another new bike with scant tire clearance, argh. This is a no go for anyone riding in areas with clay soils....get stuck in a sudden downpour and entire rear wheel is going to seize up once a little mud gets on there...otherwise love this bike
  • 2 0
 [duplicate]
  • 6 0
 Or rocky riding in arid climates where a 2.5 or 2.6 is really nice to have out back.
  • 9 0
 Seems like a good bike for people who want a bit more excitement on the regular trails but don’t have to shy away from gnarlier stuff. Although based on Dario’s review and the travel imbalance, it may take a different riding style.

I bet it would do great with the damper body on the super-deluxe swapped for the HBO version.
  • 26 17
 Everyone takes one reviewer's word as gospel...It's clearly an N+1 bike. Basically Dario was the wrong reviewer. He admits that his riding style is not suited to the bike (or vice versa). I'd like the takes of Radavist and NSMB who were equally critical but were clear that this type of bike is not for avrage enduro bros. Rather those looking for something that prioritizes fun over efficiency...
  • 3 3
 Hit the nail on the head.
  • 9 1
 @bohdibruh Agreed. Darios coming off a Yeti- the Darco is the anti-Yeti. It's really no different than reviewing one of Chromag's current hardtails. Newer Chromags have a unique take on geometry that takes some technique adjustment, ride the fork and let the back-end follow. Their longer, low front-centers keep the weight on the fork. The length helps keep you from going OTB when you're over the fork, and you set the fork up firmer than your typical FS since you're riding farther forward. The Darco is a FS for riders who are already on board with this technique adjustment. If you look at Chromag's archives, they basically changed their sizing recommendations around 2021 which had everybody move up one size, even though their geometry was unchanged. I'm not critiquing Darios review here, just noting technique adjustment wasn't mentioned.
  • 7 0
 Yeah tbh the review on NSMB made me really want one as I am a hardtail enjoyer and one who has a pretty hefty hardtail at that (35lbs of steel). They described it as riding more like a hardtail that takes the edges off and that sounds prefect to me (but obviously isn't going to be prefect for everyone).
  • 2 1
 @Emailsucks98: Just as a note - I have the Yeti, but ride a very wide variety of bikes in a given week, including a hardtail and another steel full-suspension.
  • 1 0
 @dariodigiulio: Right on, I was more commenting on the unique long & low Chromag front end & the required technique adjustment. Eagerly awaiting that Steezl review Smile
  • 13 2
 So it’s nearly 6,000usd for a 37lb 120mm trail bike that doesn’t even go up hill very well. Why bother?
  • 19 4
 To spray to your heavily tatooed and mustachioed hipster bros about your boutique bike that has sooooo much soul, while drinking a mediocre (but local) craft beer and listening to a lousy (but local) folk/Americana band.
  • 7 0
 Same thought. I had a Banshee Phantom last year, thinking a short travel ripper sounded fun. My conclusion was if I’m gonna lug around all this weight, I want more travel. Or if I have this little travel, the bike needs less weight. Switched to a 160mm bike which climbs just as well and descends better.
Similarly priced Spur literally weighs almost 10lbs less than this. Cool bike idea, but the actual number of riders good enough to utilize it is pretty small
  • 1 2
 So you can say 'steel is real'
  • 1 0
 @wyorider: oh were you at the trailhead with me last weekend?
  • 9 1
 Kinda like my heavy 35.5lb Reeb SST, great for local PNW trails
  • 2 0
 thats a heavy SST, mine is like 29 lbs
  • 3 0
 @mariomtblt: DH tires & 150mm Fox 36 put the weight up there
  • 2 0
 @kennethmchin: ouuu nice, are you gonna mullet it? I heard it rides awesome like that
  • 3 0
 @mariomtblt: no plans for a mullet, but might toss on a small wheel to see how it goes!
  • 3 0
 @mariomtblt: size is very relevant die steel frame weight
  • 5 1
 I really love Chromag, actually so much I have the bear tattoed on my calf, however for that price I´d definitely grab a Banshee.

Btw: How is that we see Banshees tested on other sites, but I can´t remeber a single review here on PB?
  • 4 0
 Ok, we need some perspective here. If this were a moto site with a Harley review, no one would be whining that it isn't as fast or light as a Kawasaki Ninja. If someone wants a Darco, I'm pretty sure they already know there are hundreds of cookie-cutter carbon bikes out there that are lighter and have more travel. Don't be a slave to the man, free yourself from corporate carbon!
  • 8 1
 Love to see M/L sizing. More pls
  • 6 0
 The "Small" is already a medium......
  • 2 0
 Agree, alot of people in the 5'8 - 6' camp who need fine tuning of frame size
  • 21 14
 I don't get the circle jerk for chromag stuff. There stuffs not that nice.
  • 5 3
 It because it’s designed in Canada so worshiped even if it’s still made in the far east
  • 1 0
 Well you see, “steel” and “real” rhyme, sooooo, basically they’re the best bikes out there.
  • 4 1
 For some ppl, there is just something about showing for ride where most ppl ride theirs 10k+ all carbon bikes counting every gram , on bike which you can literally throw off cliff and it will be just fine, and have the same if not more fun on the ride.

In the world where just about everyone drives dumbed out SUV with automatic transmission, lane keep assist, this and that,… there are still ppl who love their clapped out manual cars….
  • 1 0
 They are definitely not for everyone. I have one of their hardtails as an N+1 bike that turned into my only ride. Wanted to see what the fuss was about. I love this stupid thing. It rides smooth, looks cool, and is well made. However, it is heavy, aggressive, and not always the most comfortable to ride, But it suits me.
  • 2 1
 @dsciulli19: smooth and uncomfortable?
  • 1 0
 @hhaaiirryy: I'd say it's not the most agreeable frame as far as designed-in compliance is concerned but the high frequency vibrations do get knocked down by the steel frame when compared to an aluminum bike of similar construction. Also nobody rides a hardtail because it's a comfortable ride.
  • 8 1
 Wow $6,000 for a bike with all those house-brand parts! /s
  • 2 0
 Glad to hear that not everything is positive. Maybe it’s that most bikes these days are just THAT good I find that most reviews these days make it sound like 99% of bikes are fanatastic (other than being nit picky over spec). To read “this bike was not for me” is refreshing
  • 2 0
 Interesting bike. I normally ride a size large and prefer 470-480mm reach numbers. Based on their chart, I could ride a medium, and with a 472mm reach paired with a 435 chain stay, I would imagine the bike to be much more balanced, and less weight to boot. I would be curious to ride that setup.
  • 5 0
 I have a Doctahawk sized M/L based on Chromag staff recommendations (I'm 5'7") and using the same setup from a M Rootdown didn't feel right at all - vague front end, never feeling locked in, just feeling very meh.
Usually I can jump on a medium (even a M fugitive isn't too far out from the M/L Doctahawk for reach etc) and not be really bothered about small changes like stem length. It took me a long time to find the right stem/bar/spacer heights until it was dialled in but now that it is, the M/L makes a lot of sense and is poppy as hell but still able to eat up as much gnar as I want to contend with while feeling planted.
I get the feeling this will be the same with the Darco and probably the Lowdown in that they will still need to be really driven at the front end hard and finding that zone where you're forcefully pushing into that front end may take some more time than usual.
  • 2 1
 @danfromme: What I find wild is the medium Darco is closer to my Large Transition Patrol than the M/L is... might have to check out both.
  • 1 0
 @danfromme: Can you share what you ended up with? I enjoy my m/l Rootdown but struggle to dial in the fit just right.
  • 3 0
 @danfromme:

Interesting. I’m 5’8”… originally had a medium Primer. Was talked into a m/L doctahawk back in 2019 and boy of boy do I enjoy it. Took me awhile to get the cockpit sorted on my low/longer reach bike, but once I did, POW! Unreal. Haven’t even thought about getting a different bike. Have had the same frame/Geo for 4 years and love it
  • 5 1
 Team robot used to have some great words about marketing and being evil. Chromag out here pulling some crank bros level of treachery.
  • 6 0
 talk about punching below your weight class
  • 4 0
 Have we jumped the shark with geometry? Consider the 6'-3" reviewer sized down to a Large and still had gripes about the bike being too long.
  • 2 0
 @dariodigiulio Great review! I can't wait to hear about the Steelz. I believe that it's possible to make a good bike or a bad bike out of any material and everyone has their thing. However, I still kind of wonder about the benefit of constructing a full suspension bike out of steel due to the extra weight especially with more complex suspension platforms and added costs comparatively. Reeb may be onto something with their "printed" fixtures. We'll see.
  • 2 1
 Funny, not a lot of hate from anyone who's ridden one. I'm coming from a Rootdown so I have 10mm less fork travel on my Darco (and 120mm more on the back) - so the travel bias doesn't bother me much! I frikken' love this bike. And yeah, I've ridden long-travel enduro bikes; I like them too. But if you like that feeling of the bike coming alive under you, you will love this bike.
  • 6 1
 would like to see it compared to the reeb sst ...levy pls
  • 7 0
 See John Watsons Darco review on Radavist. He's ridden both and a Murmur.
  • 5 1
 I have the M/L. Super fun bike, silent, absorbs all the chatter. Best short travel steel FS bike on the market.
  • 3 0
 This is for the hardtail rider that loves they’re 150mm travel hardtail but sometime wants something with just a bit of squish in rear
  • 1 0
 This
  • 1 0
 "Compared to the last section, this is quite easy, as there's only one option for you to choose from. The G2 spec model is overall very well sorted, and I think it does provide good value for what you get."
There is Select+ basic suspension and decent drivetrain and the price doubles last field test bikes - how it can be called very well sorted?
  • 2 1
 Shall we cut the weight matters /doesn't matter non discussion? It's very simple to me: weight is like price, we almost all want it to be less, but usually you don't want the compromises that come with that. 9kg hardtail or 500€ department store bike, neither does very well in the rough stuff.
  • 3 0
 some average fella (like me) at 5’11” will be riding with over 500mm reach. Ouch and R.I.P. their poor necks
  • 1 0
 I am about the same height as you on a S5 stumpjumper and before that a Pole Taival. Both fit better than shorter reach bikes.
  • 2 0
 Either steepen it up and run a 130 fork or add another inch of travel in the rear and you have a sick bike. This just seems like an identity crisis
  • 1 0
 Technical question for anyone who can shed some light on it. Ive always been taught that a bike with a progressive leverage ratio has less mid travel support than a bike with a near linear leverage curve. Is that correct?
  • 3 0
 Depends. If they both require the same amount of force to reach bottom out, then yes the middle of the curve will be lower on a more progressive bike. If the more progressive bike requires more force to use all of its travel, then it depends on how much of a difference there is. Try plotting a linear and a quadratic curve (or some other curve if you want to be fancy) in some graphing software, and play around with the steepness of the lines. The height above the x axis would represent the force required at a given point in the travel
  • 8 4
 External cables yesssss. Coming back like a 73mm threaded bb.
  • 3 5
 except they're not, though
  • 7 0
 I want external cables to come back too, but this bike is the worst of both worlds as you get the aesthetics of external routing but all the faff of internal routing through the chainstay.
  • 6 0
 @scotteh: especially the rear brake wtf
  • 3 2
 @BryceBorlick: I don't mind internally routed cables, but hydraulic hoses should never be internal IMO.
  • 1 0
 @VtVolk: not for aboot 4-5 years at least..... when the huge far eastern whare houses full of infernal cable bikes have to be sold off first............
  • 2 1
 I was debating between waiting for this or getting a custom Marino frame and building it up. Went the custom build and this review sort of makes me feel like I made the right choice. This bike is beautiful though.
  • 2 0
 @Chromagbikes $3500+ for a Asian made, 120mm frame that weights more than a DH/Enduro?? You guys have several excellent bike/products. However, this one is a head scratcher.
  • 4 1
 such a beautifull, purposefull bike....... with big ugly useless wheels 29 is DEAD
  • 3 0
 Agreed. Wagon wheels on a steel jib mobile is criminal. Smaller wheels would bring the weight down, fun level up. Fail.
  • 2 0
 that front end is more raked out than a banana seat with chrome ape hangers.
  • 1 0
 Seat stay clearance issue shows how hard it is to design full sus bikes these days, but at the same time, how does everyone else achieve it so easily?
  • 2 0
 Interesting that it felt unbalanced in tech, considering it’s born in the Sea to Sky.
  • 8 5
 this thing looks perfect for me
  • 4 1
 There’s a titanium option if weight is an issue.
  • 2 0
 I still don't understand why brands spec the G2's on trail bikes when Codes are so much better and only give up 40g.
  • 1 0
 I agree, OEM cost on the G2's must be way less than the Codes even though retail prices are pretty similar
  • 1 0
 I've just picked up a new bike with G2's, pretty unimpressive, I'll probably throw SLX on it.
  • 1 0
 Sounds like it would make more sense to compare this bike to a BTR Pinner. Sadly whilst Cromag is about to release this frame, Burf will build only one more Pinner.
  • 3 0
 No thanks, and especially not at $3450.
  • 3 2
 This sounds like a very useless bike to even exist. Cromag's lucky they created this thing.... otherwise reviews would be scathing.
  • 1 1
 Since Sram released their new lever, the old ones look like they extend vertically from the bar. They look like they might be broken and are about to be. Funny how perspective changes
  • 1 0
 Imo the new ones make it look like the bars have rolled back in the stem when the rider has pulled on the bars. Especially noticeable when watching racing and you get a shot from the front.
  • 1 0
 With tire clearance that tight, and short chainstays, I hate to say it but they missed the mark not making it superboost 157.
  • 1 0
 Sting is another hero of mine. The music he's created over the years, I don't really listen to it. But the fact that he's making it, I respect that.
  • 2 0
 Its sexy AF, and if I would have the money, I’ll buy one. 3 years riding Rootdown as only bike get me sold.
  • 3 0
 472 reach on a medium. Haha. This is getting silly.
  • 1 0
 'save for a very frustrating section where they run through the chainstays"

You forgot like 14 extra "very". That's SO dumb.
  • 2 0
 yeah, Im with you here. Seems to me, you either commit to full internal routing cause it looks nice (and accept the maintenance headache) or go full external
  • 1 0
 Sounds a lot like my Banshee Phantom. Great fun but needs to be ridden more like a hard tail.
  • 1 0
 This is one of those bikes I couldn't bring myself to purchase without riding it first.
  • 2 0
 Chroma Darco, sounds like a starwars villain.
  • 2 0
 Kinda seems like the worst bike. 470 reach for a medium?!?!
  • 2 0
 This was a ton of extra fluff to basically say that this bike kinda sucks
  • 1 3
 "The suspension on the Darco definitely biases towards grip over efficiency"

Strong disagree, based on the numbers. Above 100% anti-squat at sag means getting on the power for a climb or sprint will stand-up/extend the rear suspension, and the more it stands up the more the AS tries to stand it up more. This is only really good for traction when it's pretty flat/smooth, since the stood-up suspension isn't going to let the wheel easily move up and over things when the power is on, and rarely called "active".
  • 6 0
 I find it comical that you disagree with someone’s actual ride experience and instead believe they are wrong because you looked at one metric of the suspension design. Anti-squat isn’t the be all end all of how a bike pedals.
  • 1 1
 @shawnathon: I'm saying that despite his feelings, which I'm NOT saying are wrong, this is not an "active" kinematic, that there are more active, traction-oriented, setups around. It's middle-ground, and if this feels really active, maybe some recalibration is needed, in the range of feeling or the numbers. Because, yes, anti-squat is just one number, but one that very specifically describes how the rear suspension reacts under power, how "active" it is.
  • 2 0
 @justinfoil: Consider the effect a climb switch has on how a bike climbs tech and you can understand how something completely unrelated to anti-squat (damper tune) can change the suspension. It’s pretty universal that having the climb switch closed causes the suspension move less and make tech climbs more difficult.
Having a different leverage ratio and damper tune acting on the shock could in fact make this bike find more traction on climbs where other 120mm bikes do not.
  • 1 0
 @shawnathon: "pretty universal that having the climb switch closed causes the suspension move less"

As does anti-squat around 100%. When on the power, it counters the rearward weight shift and the "squat" of the rear suspension, similar to a climb switch but via a different mechanism. In fact, AS above 100% should cause the suspension to fully counter the rearward weight shift _and_ extend the suspension a bit, making it take more force to move into the travel. That's not usually called "active". If that's not happening on this bike, if the rear is actually "more active and traction-oriented setup than you'd expect of a 120mm bike", then perhaps the AS numbers need recalculating. Or the expectation of "a 120mm bike" needs re-evaluation, because it's not like _every other_ 120mm bike has like 150% or more AS and stands up like a scared cat when on the power.
  • 2 0
 @justinfoil: you say “ it's not like _every other_ 120mm bike has like 150% or more AS and stands up like a scared cat when on the power.” You’re 100% correct in this. So why then does this bike review differently than those bikes? In your opinion would a higher leverage rate and softer damper create a more active suspension all other factors including anti-squat being the same? Or does every 120mm bike pedal the same if its anti-squat value is the same?
  • 1 0
 @shawnathon: Higher leverage isn't going to make a huge difference, because at sag it's going to have just about the same force at the wheel holding you up, it's just that the shock will be producing different force itself depending on the ratio. If the leverage curve is really steep, I suppose the ratio getting higher as it approaches top-out will reduce some of the force from the shock as it extends, but anti-squat also goes up, so I think you still end up with a net extending force, depending on power input.

I've ridden other bikes with claimed numbers like this (including some 120mm), and I would not really call them active, and I'm not seeing them called especially active in reviews. Often they are labeled as "efficient". More active than something with a ton more AS, yes; but that's like saying a Focus RS is slow compared to an F1 car: true, but it's true for pretty much everything!
  • 1 0
 Let’s return your original response. You feel that someone’s first hand experience with how a bike feels is wrong. A bias towards traction vs. efficiency. You base this opinion on high anti-squat alone. Still sounds silly to me.

Wouldn’t a >100% anti-squat promote traction in situations by forcing the contact patch into the ground? A 100% or lower Anti-squat would just compress. Even If you added a firm efficient shock it still couldn’t do what the higher anti-squat does. It would just feel more like a hardtail. Efficient power transfer but less traction. With that in mind you have to see that a higher than 100% anti squat combined with an otherwise more compliant suspension would be a good recipe for traction but it would not necessarily be efficient.

Your arguments have done nothing to make me feel any different. It just feels like you don’t want to be wrong.
  • 1 0
 @shawnathon: No, I'm not saying anything about the experience. As I just said, I'm comparing that feeling with what we've been told about feelings on other bikes with similar numbers, and how those feelings are very often attributed to those numbers. Many many other reviews right here on PB have cited similar anti-squat and leverage curves to explain why other bikes are not particularly active, why they are oriented towards efficiency.

"A 100% or lower Anti-squat would just compress."

An idealized 100% AS should not compress: it counters weight shift from acceleration exactly. It also shouldn't bob much, since there is no difference in the net forces on the suspension between power impulses.

Less than 100% doesn't "just compress", it simply doesn't fully counter the weight shift, so the bike squats-in (some) under acceleration. This is seen as "inefficient" since the suspension moves a bit before the power goes to the ground, but the same happens with greater than 100%, it's just the other way: AS more than counters the weight shift, so the bike stands-up instead of squatting-in, but it still is going to have to move the suspension before the full power gets to the ground.

With above 100%, it might seem like the wheel is being driven into the ground more, but the weight on the wheel doesn't really change, since the weight shift from acceleration is the same (given same weight and accel), just the reaction of the suspension is different. In fact, allowing it to squat-in would load the rear more, since compressing only the rear suspension will by itself shift weight to the rear wheel. Less than 0% anti-squat would be only way that the wheel is actually pulled away from the ground.
  • 1 0
 While the world burns, I like and want the weird things. At this point who cares if it might be bad or slow.
  • 1 0
 37 pounds? No worries. Just lighten yourself by 5 pounds before the ride!
  • 1 0
 Not the lightest. Doesn't pedal the fastest. But man is it fun.
  • 4 7
 The weight is okay for a bike built to be ridden hard, and long front/short rear bikes can be fun albeit slower than a more balanced geometry.

The concern I’d have with this bike is how many rear shocks would get destroyed. If this bike is driven as hard as it’s built for, it’ll be clanging off the bottom out bumper-a lot. Chromag should have upped the rear travel OR built the bike around less fork.
  • 2 0
 Having the shock serviced and swapping the damper body to an HBO version may help in that case. It should keep it off the bottom out bumper without as much energy returned to the rider like a shock full of volume spacers would.
  • 8 2
 Actually it isn't ok. Chromag had some great bikes, but ...a 38lb 120mm is ridiculous.
  • 2 1
 @bman33: I agree-bike should be 140-150 out back....and fit a 2.6 in back as well.
  • 1 1
 @shawnathon: Not enough travel to make that much difference-and it'd make the last few mm of travel spooky and spiky. Might save the shock, but I'll bet the bike would be a randomly deploying ejector seat all ate up with spacers.
  • 1 0
 @wyorider: HBO works by adding progressively more compression damping that comes into play deep in the travel. This means you could run less volume spacers and won’t get as much rebound force. This makes the bike more calm and damped, not spooky and spiky. This is the opposite of an ejector seat.
  • 1 0
 @shawnathon: Less rebound force will feel nicer, but HBO can only do so much-with this little travel I'll still say the shock will get overwhelmed. HBO is fixed on air shocks-it's a nice feature but not a solution to an understroked rear end.

On something like a regular Stumpjumper, Ripley or a Ripmo that gets ridden hard, HBO does allow for better tuning though.
  • 3 0
 It's not the amount of travel that matters to the shock, but the leverage ratio. This frame (120/45=2.67) should be nominally kinder to its shock than my 2018 Altitude is (150/55=2.73). This aligns with Dario running exactly the same 220psi pressure as I do, even though I'm 10lbs lighter and not exactly a shredder. (Yes the air pistons could be different sizes, but I refuse to go that far down the rabbit hole!)

The travel imbalance just means the back end is going to need to be set up firmer than the front. It's always going to have a unique ride quality, but I can't see how it would endanger the shock or why it should even bottom out a lot.
  • 1 0
 Looks like a vietnamese pig. Short on travel,big on weight.
  • 1 0
 Should’ve not stopped making arcturians. That’s all.
  • 2 1
 Yeah nah...imma buy the Status from a few review back lol
  • 1 0
 If this bike were a watch, it would be a pocket-watch.
  • 1 1
 You would literally have to be a cro-magnon human to buy this bike. Even then, your cro-mag buddies would eye you warily.
  • 1 0
 It looks like Mongoose
  • 1 1
 Coming soon: Chromag ebike.
  • 1 2
 Shoulda reviewed the Ti Darco.
  • 1 3
 Idk, this review sounds like it's from somebody that hasn't spent time on a Chromag before
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