Frame Details The Elyte is designed and built around the Bosch SX motor. It provides a modest 55 Nm of torque, but if you spin your legs fast enough it boasts a 600 W peak power output, which is up there with "full-power" motors like Shimano's EP801. Torque is the rotational force the motor applies to the chainring, while power is the torque multiplied by the rotational speed (cadence). It's the power that dictates how fast you can ride up a hill, not the torque. So, to get so much power with relatively little torque, you have to spin quite fast. You won't get anywhere near the peak power unless you use a higher cadence than most riders are used to. Cleverly, Whyte have specced stubby 155 mm cranks in all sizes, which naturally result in a higher cadence as well as extra ground clearance.
A 400 Wh internal battery sits inside the enclosed downtube and isn't designed to be removed in a hurry. A 250Wh Bosch Powermore range extender is included with the top-spec model (tested) and can be fitted to the bottle bosses nearest the motor, giving a total of 650 Wh of energy, putting it in line with many full-power e-bikes. The range extender weighs 1.5 kg, bringing the total weight to 21 kg. When riding, the range extender and main battery drain simultaneously and maintain a similar percentage, so you can't drop off the range extender once it's spent leaving you with a full main battery. The long, straight downtube means a second bottle can be fitted in front of the range extender. Whyte say a 450 ml Fidlock bottle will fit in sizes M-XL, but I was able to fit a regular 750 ml bottle in my Xl test bike. If you're planning to exert yourself more than the motor, you can mount two bottles instead.
The electronic derailleur is powered by its own AXS battery rather than a wire from the main battery. AXS derailleurs powered by the main battery make sense in theory; proponents say there's a reserve in the main battery for a few hundred shifts after the motor "dies". However, Whyte say they decided to have a separate battery for the derailleur because this reserve doesn't always work, leaving you suddenly without power or gears. And with a bike like this, you could keep riding for a long time without assistance so long as the gears work. The downside is you'll need to charge the derailleur battery every few rides.
The frame features cable ports for "traditional" internal cable routing, but the headset has room to run the cables through the headset if you prefer - I can recommend a good psychiatrist if that's you. There's plenty of rubberized frame protection plus an aluminum skid plate under the motor, which gets some use thanks to the low-hanging motor position, which is designed to keep the center of gravity as low as possible. The unidirectional carbon frame is category-four rated, which loosely means it's designed for enduro-style riding but not bike parks. It's only tested for forks up to 150 mm, so you can't fit anything longer without voiding the warranty.
"Yeah, it's alwhyte."
As much as I like the theoretical modularity of bikes, that just seems like a basic amount of integration that should be there at that pricepoint..
Edit: Initially written before @seb-stott 's comment. That sucks that the reserve sometimes does not work. If I was a customer, I'd still prefer the convenience of charging everything through one battery and having to remember to turn the motor off at a small amount of battery to guarantee some spare power for the gears. But at least that explains their reasoning.
Did I mention am an engineer?
We live in a world of plenty, vast opportunity, and a wealth of choice. If this thing doesnt have all the bells and whistles you find important, its because the engineers/designers prioritized other things. You get that part right?
Like Whyte might not have all the resources that Spesh, or Trek might have, so in lieu of whatever connectivity gadget it is that the OP believes "should" be included at the price, they have done something else, like paid for R&D, or etc...
Everyone is perfectly aware that brands arrive at their product through their own set of priorities and that other options exist, I don't think we should need to write that down everytime..
The PB comment section is a perfect example of people thinking their "opinion" is the right one, and all others are to be disregarded.
I also dont for a second believe "most" people have a great understanding of anything regarding the bike industry, if they did, well we wouldnt see the comments that we do.
There is a wild sense of entitlement that manufacturers should be designing/building/ marketing things that individuals "believe" they want, and get pretty uppity (similar to your comment) when they dont.
The differences in the things that are created are what affords us to have the choice we do, I'm always baffled when people demand that those choices are limited.....
Seb provided a pretty clear explanation as to why they chose differently to your opinion, and once you had an explanation youre fine with it. The idea that you needed to have that before you softened is an example of that entitlement.
All e-bike batteries have a reserve to power a headlight... or accessory !!
As someone that owns a Kenevo SL yes you have to pedal to go up but i would hardly call it hard work. You need more than 27 miles of range? and that's without the range extender.
Honestly you are talking out of your rear.
One chain broke a few minutes after lightly tagging it on a rock step (probably pried an outer plate loose). I’m just pedaling along wondering, what’s that faint “ticking” noise? Then bam, chain breaks and rips my derailleur clean off.
Moral of the story, don’t ignore ticking noises, and e-bikes need bash guards too.
So Power(W) = Torque(Nm) x Angular Velocity(Rad/s)
600W = 55 Nm x (RPM x 2π / 60)
RPM = 600 x 60 / (55 x 2π)
or this
eicac.co.uk/power-rpm-and-torque-calculator
The bearings have been pretty good for me so far, but I think they use newer bearings than back in the day. Lifetime free replacement on pivot bearings too (although only tried that once so far).
The one thing I wish all eMTBs had was a standard charging port. Now that would be progress! USB-C anyone?? (joke!)
“ Whyte's lead engineer told me he runs a neutral bushing for in-between geometry, which might be a good compromise for all-round riding.”
But it doesn’t sound like a neutral bushing is shipped with the bike, which is odd, more so if the guy that designs the bike finds that the best compromise?
I realy don't understand, why producers puts such long chainstays to medium power bikes... there is no Turbo, or Boost mode for super steep climbing. And none of them are long travel, super enduro bike, where such long rear end would be usefull.
Dario and Seb are 6'3" though.
Its nice to have some representation for the taller folk, as many times bikes are "designed primarily" for the M/L size range. The XL's can sometimes ride quite a bit differently, and its nice to have someone who can bikes in those sizes.
But I agree, it can be "annoying" when you find a review of a bike you like, but in a size that was wildly different than what you're interested in. On the flip side though, I don't really think its realistic for them to have to test each bike in multiple sizes.
Often I look for reviews from other sites/people in that situation, to see if what I can glean from their reviews.
Been riding eBikes since 2016 and had 4 eMtbs in that time. Always gone for the 170+mm travel option and can't see why I wouldn't
IMHO bike like the Kenevo SL still make so much more sense.
I think it is an offset busing in the shock linkage (shape it link) like specialized use, you just flip it.
Lol, they do not provide a very similar ride to a comparable bike though. They have enduro pig weight, with a trail build. Zero use case.
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